I was just looking at the Parkes/Friar Tuck website and noticed he refers to a model that's a "Malibu style performance board. A board that goes like a long board, easy to paddle & planes well in small surf - but is kneeboard, not a long board." Sadly no pics on the site.
Sounds really interesting for small summer waves in Sydney but I'm intrigued as to what this kind of board would look like and what it's specific features would be.
Anyone have something like this? How does it go?
Small surf "mal-like" kneeboard?
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Oh it used to be there on the site! Its a bit like a kneeboard Bonzer tri-fin and I believe a little longer than what you would usually ride. I was interested in one myself, but things didn't work out and I ended up sticking with a local shaper Bro Diplock and could not be happier. It wasn't that I didn't want to have the Parkes board, in fact its a dream to have a board or two from DP, but the £££ dried up totally.
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The pic of the Bonzer tri-fin is still on the site, but it looks like that's different to the mal one to me as there is a Bonzer caption to the right of it.szrbloke wrote:Oh it used to be there on the site! Its a bit like a kneeboard Bonzer tri-fin ....
Thanks for the tips folks, might give DP a call to discuss.
I think I know what you are asking about as I have one similar made for two foot and under.
The board is thick where it counts - but no too much in the rails.
The rocker is flatter than normal - the curve that you normally have in the rocker is translated into the planshape - courtesy of the wide point position and a smidgin extra width.
The board paddles so well it makes you lazy - and catches waves so well you won't have any mates who will want to surf with you.
Concept? Small waves have small areas to fit a board into - you can go fat and low rocker - but the board rails will catch - unless you go twinnie and never get it on the rail - but it will still catch.
You can go fat and higher rocker to keep the rails out - but the rocker will push water when you paddle - just what you don't need in small waves where a lot of your initial/total/aggregate acceleration is from the takeoff.
. So you t ake the curve out of the rocker and put it somehere else. You need to balance the rail hardness, thickness (and foil?).
Parksey has it down to a fine art. I'd highly recommend him.
Steen might have something to say too. He got good brains
edit here's a pic sorry about thei size. Dn't worry about the concave that's my thing///
The board is thick where it counts - but no too much in the rails.
The rocker is flatter than normal - the curve that you normally have in the rocker is translated into the planshape - courtesy of the wide point position and a smidgin extra width.
The board paddles so well it makes you lazy - and catches waves so well you won't have any mates who will want to surf with you.
Concept? Small waves have small areas to fit a board into - you can go fat and low rocker - but the board rails will catch - unless you go twinnie and never get it on the rail - but it will still catch.
You can go fat and higher rocker to keep the rails out - but the rocker will push water when you paddle - just what you don't need in small waves where a lot of your initial/total/aggregate acceleration is from the takeoff.
. So you t ake the curve out of the rocker and put it somehere else. You need to balance the rail hardness, thickness (and foil?).
Parksey has it down to a fine art. I'd highly recommend him.
Steen might have something to say too. He got good brains
edit here's a pic sorry about thei size. Dn't worry about the concave that's my thing///
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Hi Headwax,
are the fins clustered closer together than David's' "usual" configuration or is it my imagination?
are the fins clustered closer together than David's' "usual" configuration or is it my imagination?
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Hi !
Ahh this was the board straight out of the wrapping paper. I was so excited I just put the fins in so I could take the pictures
It's hard to see but there are boxes in the front and fcs at the back. I ended up with front fins pushed all the way forward in the boxes.
So I think that as pictured, in answer to your question 'yes'!
But if I rode it like this it would have been too pivotal with not enough drive - as the fin bases being so close together wouldn't give a wide enough 'fulcrum' point to drive against.
I like to play with fin positions and the front boxes let me fiddle around a little more than ordinary fcs. Maybe they give more rigidity in the base as well?
It's interesting with quads because often if you push the front fin back the board will get looser as the 'apparent fin base' gets smaller
Ahh this was the board straight out of the wrapping paper. I was so excited I just put the fins in so I could take the pictures
It's hard to see but there are boxes in the front and fcs at the back. I ended up with front fins pushed all the way forward in the boxes.
So I think that as pictured, in answer to your question 'yes'!
But if I rode it like this it would have been too pivotal with not enough drive - as the fin bases being so close together wouldn't give a wide enough 'fulcrum' point to drive against.
I like to play with fin positions and the front boxes let me fiddle around a little more than ordinary fcs. Maybe they give more rigidity in the base as well?
It's interesting with quads because often if you push the front fin back the board will get looser as the 'apparent fin base' gets smaller
It's nice to see a board design discussion again.
If I ever get to building the grovel board I've had in plans for 5 years, it will be mostly what Headwax said, except I'm plumping for shorter than normal (5'8" as opposed to 6') and twinnies to reduce drag. No leash, fins, wetsuit or boardies should help, too.
If I ever get to building the grovel board I've had in plans for 5 years, it will be mostly what Headwax said, except I'm plumping for shorter than normal (5'8" as opposed to 6') and twinnies to reduce drag. No leash, fins, wetsuit or boardies should help, too.
Hey Red, gee I was checking out your facebook page the other day - linked via Sydney Kneelos? Who knows....
Good that you are still as keen as ever and making your own stuff.
Yes it's a good idea to go short aye? Imagine the plan shape curves you could get out of a 5'5 by 25 "
Just a small joke. Yes going from 5'10 to 5,8 made a big difference to the planshape curve.
Interestingly my last board by Albert was 5'7! Things go in circles, just more refined each time they go around (hopefully) (I think I weighed 1 and a half stone lighter mind you)
Hope you are well. Great waves here today. One guy out
cheers from newie
Good that you are still as keen as ever and making your own stuff.
Yes it's a good idea to go short aye? Imagine the plan shape curves you could get out of a 5'5 by 25 "
Just a small joke. Yes going from 5'10 to 5,8 made a big difference to the planshape curve.
Interestingly my last board by Albert was 5'7! Things go in circles, just more refined each time they go around (hopefully) (I think I weighed 1 and a half stone lighter mind you)
Hope you are well. Great waves here today. One guy out
cheers from newie