SOUTH BAY SHAPERS--who make kneeboards

[hart]

its all good..

gotta go but and race my dog to the clothes line.

my booties are hangin' up

EQ

and did Bud really shape you a thruster?

hart

[john -]

im thinking you guys might be touchy about our perceived touchyness

but its hard to tell humour or intent from the written word

and a joke often reveals thinking - see above!!!


apart from that i was just shooting the breeze rather than being emotionally involved - i thought the dig revealed some interesting things (thinking)

Hey rock - i argue with the mrs all the time - geez i love her

[eqKneelo]

Good stuff... didn't want anyone thinking anything I write is serious.
Hart-
Bud has shaped me at least 6 thrusters... Loved everyone of them. Not as extreme as a lot of the Aussie models I've seen and riden, but still very loose and vertical. 6'-6'7".... 17"x23"x17" with the fins about 18" and 12"(center).
EQ

[hart]

EQ

you can drop the centre fin back to 10" if it is the same size as your rail fins..or even to 8 1/2" from the tail if its area is reduced to say 70% of the rail fin size..



cause thrusters can give U drive that quadfins can only dream of..

yet again, they can track like quadfins NEVER could.

hart

so.. keep the curve up to everything..

ps

except the ball..'cause I aint pitchin' nothin'!

yet..


smile

[eqKneelo]

HART-
I actually really dislike a spread cluster... can't maintain drive. I loved that board you shaped for Kyle that Barry won in a raffle. Big, Wide, Nice Rocker, and a tight cluster. Gotta test drive it one day.
I don't know how people maitain drive with the center fin at 10" or less... they all bogg for me.
EQ

[joe]

EQ

I'm sure Harry will let you give it a go when you come down for Surf Bowl 2005 or the Oceanside Gathering.

[stemple]

Not to stir the pot too much, but I ride both Bud's quad fins and Hart's tris. I would lean more to what EQ has to say. For me and my style, or lack there of, the quad set drives better off the bottom but takes a bit more work to get vertical and swing around off the top if there isn't a wall to bank off of. The Flashpoints really want you to drive mostly with the rail. I also find that when I move my center fin back or spread the tri cluster to takes some of looseness out of the board and makes it drive a bit better. The pintail loves to be put high on the wave face for those peel your ears back races with the the lip. The Blast likes to be driven to the base of the wave then cranked.

They both work great.

I packed my
flash point 6'3" pintail
flash point 6' and
blast 6'

for Hawaii leaving friday. Based on the board lengths reported on this site it makes me feel that I will be way undergunned. Oh well more beer for me

I am frothing, looking some of pictures posted so far.

[WillP]

EQ:

How about a surf tomorrow? It'll give you a chance to try out my Flashpoint and also to surf some of the backside PV spots that i've been going on and on about.

Sound good? Give me a call on my cell if interested.



WILL P.

[K-man]

[ The Flashpoints really want you to drive mostly with the rail]

Well there ya go!Different strokes.80 % of the time I'll ride the tri[Fp]in a variety of conditions.Since the board is rigged for my style-wider tail.more tail volume,wide point back of center,pulled in nose.I use less rail than most riders,since I'm more tail oriented.
Haave no problem with drive with this fin setup rails at 16-1/2 center at 8-1/4.Maybe I'm confusing speed with drive????
All I know is... the manoeuvers I make seem to generate speed.


k

[john -]

[quote="stemple"] I would lean more to what EQ has to say. For me and my style, or lack there of, the quad set drives better off the bottom but takes a bit more work to get vertical and swing around off the top if there isn't a wall to bank off of.




ditto for my Parkes quad - when theres a decent wall the quad is in its element

[willli]

when theres a decent wall the quad is in its element

geze, that can be said about any board, including the door i take out once a year

but lately I've discovered a new use for the quad fish, considering the fish mania that seems to be sweeping the stand-up crowd here in the USA

confronted with a tightly packed line-up I stand prominently by the shore making sure everyone notices I'm carrying a fish

when I paddle out I get a lot of "nice fish.. who made it " comments

AND

I get no hassle waves. considering Buddy's designs are capable of some pretty jaw dropping stuff. this behavior on my part probably has a parallel in the antics that go on at stoplights when two closely matched
muscle cars
start goosing the gas in unspoken challenge
kind of like
"you think you know how to ride a fish.. watch THIS"

that said,

90% of the time I'm reaching for something quite different
and find myself carrying a little piece of soul
from Dee Why

[john -]

gee wizz willi!!!

The wall statment re my quad comes from David Parkes himself! - then my experience after ten years on a thruster

personally im not good enough to surf a door

however my ecumenical eye predicts that the soul from Dee Why and the one from Byron Bay will inhabit a ocean of equality based on fin placement rather than fin number (see The Coach)






dorje

and of course all the other elements in shaping that go in to producing the one WHOLENESS of the board

[surfhorn]

Good post, willi. Enjoy your writing.......and the rest of you ugly mugs!

[ScottMac]

..

[hart]

every surfboard works in walls..like a skatey on a pavement

..yet some particular surfboards, like single fins .. needed them to work.

Morning Of The Earth relied upon them to show what surfers could do..

which is why they went to Indo and Hawaii to film the majority of it.

Alby Falzon searched for walls..

To test a true surfboard, take it out without them (walls that is)

and see what it will do..



surfboards should work when waves don't

that way, when waves do..

2 plus 2 will equal 5

hart

..

smile again