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jamie wrote:
Is headwax perhaps trying to draw Neil out into forum world to discuss his designs, the development of kneeboards and kneeboarding.
He is probably the oldest commercial kneeboard shaper in Australia, he has been shaping my boards since just before the 2002 World kneelo titles.

Na! I think wax is trying to draw out people like yourselves who have good Island experience to put your 2 cents in.

so it seems to have worked and wed like to know more!
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Hello Jaimie and Dogtown and Dorje ;)

well what am I asking..... hmmmmmmmmmm. I'm not asking a simple question though, of course, it is obvious that I am simple.

In the heyday of Australian Kneeboard media coverage, arguably 1974 to 1982, there were a two major and several minor media players. Surfing world, Tracks, Breakaway, Seanotes, come to mind.

A brief glance down the contributor list of the major magazines' staff photogs might give us, amongst others - one Ware, one Crawford, one Simon Chipper - all kneelos. A brief glance down the advertisers columns in those same mags might give us Friar Tuck (strongly represented) Hot Buttered, an occasional Crozier, and a mix of other miscellaneous kneelo manufacturers - not to mention in a one or two or five months period, a s aturation campaign of advertisements for Crystal Voyager.

As another example, as you probably know, Alby Falzon (editor of Tracks) was strongly involved (as I imagine was Tracks itself) in the making of Crystal Voyager. So, in this example, we have a George Greenough thrust upon us, not just because he is a genuis, but also because he is a "going" media concern.

Why am I blah blah blahing about this?

Drag out your media collections from that period and ask who is most strongly represented? Ask yourself why? How much of it is due to the intrinsic value of the surfer himself? How much is related to the 'old boy' foot in the door network? How much of it is related to the advertising dollar? How much of it is related to the advertorial dollar? Was Tracks for example a North Side Sydney Production that, for the most part, ignored other areas of the country.

so when I ask
...would really like to know how much NL contributed to the development of kneeboard design in Australia ... I hear the rumours that it was major but .... unfortunately no one is (meaning was) saying.... not that it matters I suppose (never get on the wrong side of the press - )
I don't think I could be asking clearer question.

Mind you, I don't really care on the matter, but it seems obvious to me that, if Neil Luke was a major influence on Australian Kneeboarding (which it appears he was) , then such influnce has been largely ignored
by the major surf magazines of the period.

If such was the case I think it wouldn't hurt to ask why.

After all NL was away from the clutches of Terry Fitz who spawned or had some finger in the pye on for example) the shaping careers of Artis, Whiteman, Parkes.

In a way, because of his geographical isolation, that might make him unique.

A kind of Philip Island Monotreme.

Not that I know any of this... just making it up because I am bored ;)

BTW Jaimie, thanks for picking up Don's board from my mother's house. The raffled goods form the last worlds donated by Don went down very well at the Novo CHristmas party.......
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Head, just to throw a bit of light on Neil Luke`s rep as perceived from a bit further afar than the northern beaches.During that period you stated,and from one of those so mentioned minor surf mags ( Breakaway) I can vivdly recall an interview with both Neil Luke and a bloke by the name of Rob McCartney.This I think was a Victorian based mag of which Neil would feature semi regularly and any and all info on him or Artis,Crawford was devoured by those of us out west.His influence was evident in many hot kneelos such as a guy called Ross Obrian who if memory serves me pulled a second or a third behind one of these two guys in a late seventies Oz Titles and who also featured in that same mag with his new shapes derived from his encounters with the already established icon that is Neil Luke.
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griz

impressed by your memory

here's something to fill in the minor gaps :)

cover Breakaway July 1974

Oh to go into the newsagents and see a kneelo on the cover
what bliss ;)

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a rare nodddd from Tracks (Jan early eighties?)

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and another nodd

tracks sept 1980? (can't read date on cover)

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post script

oddly enough and of interest to Maroubraphilles, a mention of Jaimie Judd in the interview.....
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Head, I knew if you dug through that pile in the dunny you`d find it.
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very important to have a dunny in the library.... er I mean the other way 'round

;)

friend of mine has the Gideon Bible in the reading room .... just don't know whether that's taking things to far.
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I ain't gonna say much cos I aint gonna steal his thunder...but Neil Luke is not too far away from releasing over 30 years of accumulated innovation, experience, and wisdom into the kneeboading community. Stay tuned folks.
With that I pick up my new "Freak" on Sunday. After two years of loyal service, the original was traded in. I can't remember the last time a kneeboard had value as a trade-in. It lasted a week in the shop and it was gone...and for a good price.
2 x Freaks will now grace the garage wall. The tri-fin for holding it together in meaty Winter waves and the quad-fin for smaller Summer fun. My mission is complete...and all done with the wife's approval.
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Dane, NL is obviously a legend

mind you I was in a car with him on PI in 1983

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and I wished I wasn't

:) heh

(I never been so scared, nor so cold)

there was Glen Perry, John the Hot Buttered Spray Artist, Myself and the Girl-who-would-be-my-wife (GHWBMW)

:) t'was a rush to sit in the back seat ....................

maybe he got the idea for the freak from the look on my face when we finally reached our destination

any other hints Dane?
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G'Day HW. Sorry...can't tell. All I can add is that it is long overdue.
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Hi Dane

well here we are and yet to get a decent wave since out last coversation regarding catching up for a surf when next there is a surf---eight weeks ago!!!

Swell Net predicted waves and off shore for this sunday on wednesday, only to down grade tonight (friday) to onshore trash





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maybe soon eh!
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Dorjie...I'll be lurking at 13th at dawn tomorrow.
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So will I!

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I usually just lurk
... obviously as this is my first post
but just had to drop in
Dane wrote:I can't remember the last time a kneeboard had value as a trade-in. It lasted a week in the shop and it was gone...and for a good price.
yes I bought it

... first time, since my very first board (a Strapper Turbo Fin), that I have not had a board shaped specifically for me by Neil. Neil has shaped all my boards other than that Strapper.
I am coming back to surfing after a very long absence. I trust Neil and his advice and as Dane is only a little larger than I, his old board seemed like a good stop-gap while I get organised and work out what I may need as an older Kneeboarder. I should point out that I have never met Dane.

I still have my late 80's NL twin fin, which was the last in a line of board changes while I was a regular surfer and a little obsessed.
I hope to re-gain the fitness required to handle that board once again and Dane's old Freak may help me get there.
but
... I'll be very keen to know how Dane's new Quad handles. I may want one too.

I said it before,
I trust Neil
and always will.
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Post by Mike Fernandez »

I have my Neil Luke, where's yours? Probably the only one in the world that's been in the snow :lol:
6ft x 23.5 x 2.25 Gallagher's old board. Channels down the middle, double flyer.

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mike lets see the board in action in the surf :twisted: WITH the snowy backdrop, maybe a couple of snowmen on the shore watching you....
Some 6 foot Rockaway would be a great start
stop hiding your great photos of the atlantic surf from us :lol:
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