Glass How heavy????

loonylen · Post by **loonylen** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 6:08 pm

I'm wondering how heavy a glass job for my new stick I was thinking 4 oz on the bottom and 2x4oz top deck....... I weigh 90 kg's
Any input guy's ?

K-man · Post by **K-man** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 6:23 pm

90ks/ got some beef...

That seems a bit on the light side to me.Gonna have some mean divits on the deck.If you like them ''light'' then thats the answer,Of course the life expectancy won't be long.I weigh 160,4x6 on top,with a deck patch,and I still get the odd divit.Bottoms are 6oz Like my boards with a bit more weight.Boards are still pretty light,and manage to take a good thrashing.Definately get an extra yr,and a bit more $ when sold.
Different strokes....yeah?

cheers

loonylen · Post by **loonylen** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 7:25 pm

Is that a 4oz and a 6oz with a 6oz pad or 4oz pad?

K-man · Post by **K-man** » Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:08 am

4oz,I think.Don't see a six patch adding that much more weight,and seeing you have a bit of weight.... ]The extra strength gives a bit of insurance.
Must be a few big guys out there with more personal board glassing ideas?

cheers

Big Fred · Post by **Big Fred** » Sun Mar 30, 2008 10:21 am

loonylen, im a big guy 220 and my boards are glassed with 4oz with 6oz patch for the deck and a 4oz bottom. k-mans idea for 6oz bottom is good if your surfing reef or shallow areas and you need the exta glass in those conditions. hope this helps

surfhorn · Post by **surfhorn** » Sun Mar 30, 2008 10:49 am

6 oz bottom
6 oz x 4oz deck
3 3/4 oz deck patch from in front of knee area to tail
3 oz long oval patches where knees/lower legs to ankle impact deck
pads-no wax

When I was working in the factory, I would take the time
to make it a hanging deck patch. Thats cutting the rail lap, wetting it out but just let it hang and go off; that would create a little 'fence". When hard, I would flip board over on its bottom and pour resin around that little fenced area, creating a resin bead all around the tail. Strong stuff.

toofast3 · Post by **toofast3** » Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:59 am

My board I got from Bruce has 6oz all the the way around. I tend to ride a lot of shore break and wanted the extra strenght. I`m 170#. My other boards are done with 2oz on the bottom and 4oz on top. Nice and lite.

NIUHI GRIPS · Post by **NIUHI GRIPS** » Sun Mar 30, 2008 12:15 pm

I JUST ORDERED A NEW BOARD...
-4oz. BOTTOM
-4oz. x 4oz. DECK.

skansand · Post by **skansand** » Sun Mar 30, 2008 12:39 pm

6oz x 4oz deck and 4oz bottom works for me..

Freddie · Post by **Freddie** » Sun Mar 30, 2008 12:46 pm

All my boards are 4oz bottom and 2 x 4oz top. I ride with no pads and weigh in at 210lbs and have no problems.

ScottMac · Post by **ScottMac** » Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:08 pm

red · Post by **red** » Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:39 pm

A lot depends on the overlaps, since this is where most of the strength against snapping comes from. Overlap can be affected by the width of cloth that's used. Not going to get a lot of change from 25" wide cloth on a 23" wide board.

Then there's resin loading and adhesion to the foam.

I guess it comes down to the repuutation of the shop you're getting the board from. If it's known for light, snappable boards, then you might want to go heavier on the cloth. The snappable may be coming from the lamination process, quality of cloth (not all 4oz cloths are equal - some cost $250 a roll, others $1250), sanding, blank, stringer, etc.

Lastly, if you're riding decent sized waves, then a heavier board gives advantages of stability and stiffness.

frankfqr · Post by **frankfqr** » Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:24 pm

For longevity and weight I've combo'd 6 an 4 on some of my bottom layups keeping in mind that the 4oz "weave profile" lays up so smooth that it decreases the amount of sanding resin needed to infill, offsetting the percieved and actual weight. Mr. Red is breaking it down real well for you. For more detail you might want to include your style and wave preference. Key factors. Flying and flinging or criticle hard core placement

stevea · Post by **stevea** » Sun Mar 30, 2008 8:16 pm

Lenny ,
Len will be great to see the finished product ,Ryan has become a very good craftsman in a relatively short time ,and the only problem as Red mentioned is the lap or lack of it .I mostly went for 4 oz bottom and 4oz deck filler coat and sand then 4oz texture deck panel from in front of knees through tail ,we are around the same weight and with pads had no problems although the lifespan of the board will be reduced i preffered light as possible for the usual Umina mush and the long paddle out to you know where
So i guess its how long between boards ,Ryan has a good method my last board has 6oz bottom and 2 by 4oz deck (ran out of 6oz)and is holding up well ,say hi to all catch you before it gets too cold or am i too late

loonylen · Post by **loonylen** » Sun Mar 30, 2008 8:41 pm

Thanks for the input guy's Its all very confusing but Steeva knows the break I mainly surf, the shapers work and is around my weight so I'll lean towards his advice I'll post some pic's of the board and paticulars when its finished

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