Can Tech change surfing

MJ · Post by MJ » Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:37 pm

Interesting link.

http://www.pcauthority.com.au/News/2504 ... rfing.aspx

Kev · Post by **Kev** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:55 pm

you never know what the future will bring
especially in televised sports

tech has crept in to many sports for both scoring and for the fun of it
G forces and Air Time might be something commentators focus on in the future
all it would take is a major sponsor to want to 'Name It' and you never know

many won't like it

Mike Fernandez · Post by **Mike Fernandez** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 1:34 pm

I already saw a video the other day measuring the fastest surfer in the contest. Slater won with a bottom turn to the lip of a three foot wave. His top speed in that maneuver was 32mph.
Poorly used technology in that case in my opinion. I would rather know top speed at Teahupoo, or the XXL contests.

toofast3 · Post by **toofast3** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 4:52 pm

So where does my TOOFAST name come in?

skansand · Post by **skansand** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 7:11 pm

belive it or not surfmats may be faster then even kelly...

Mark Thompson is claiming 48 MPH and he thinks he can go over 50mph!!

heres the post : http://23breaths.blogspot.com/2011/01/w ... ecord.html

albert · Post by **albert** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 7:20 pm

Personally I am a bit skeptical of GPS technology capturing how fast surfers go. Not knowing all that much about the technology, you would think that the gps signal would have to be; a.) super strong, b.) updated at least every 1/10 of a second and c.) capture movement in all three dimensions.

I dont think GPS is quite that advanced to capture that particular speed, but I could be wrong!

Headwax. · Post by **Headwax.** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 7:58 pm

could be wrong mtbarrels posted somethings here about measuring speed - related to his hydrofoil board I think.

was say four -five years ago - can't find hide nor hair of him with the search button though

PS albert congrats on philip island

Post by **joe** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:35 pm

Headwax,

Here's that MTBarrels post on GPS measurements from a few years ago.
viewtopic.php?p=31465&highlight=#31465

Joe

Headwax. · Post by **Headwax.** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:05 pm

Ahh thanks Joe!

I was searching with a wildcard under MT* in author but nothing came up. Much obliged.

Nice guy MtBarrels - very smart and helpful. I wonder what happened to him.

RMcKnee · Post by **RMcKnee** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:32 pm

Not sure where he is now, but you can see where he's been ...

http://www.rodndtube.com/surf/info/Hydrodynamics.shtml

Pukas & Tecnalia in their press release wrote:Surfing is still a sport governed by feelings.

Hoist by their own petard, I'd say.

Headwax. · Post by **Headwax.** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:56 pm

ahh thanks for that ink really interesting stuff

I remember poopoohing it because it showed the board travelling in the water and not above it - I must have had tall poppy syndrome. "Critics demolish what they cannot build "

cheers

jdc · Post by **jdc** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 2:34 am

Headwax. wrote:
"Critics demolish what they cannot build "

cheers

FARK

wish this gem had a landed in pocket earlier but better late than never

to quote Red from years back...speed shmeed...you stall to tube and reality time space changes

a reo often needs wave shape more than speed

Kev · Post by **Kev** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:28 am

agree with Albert to the GPS thing, accuracy and 3 dimensions AND as the other Albert said " it's all relative ". The speed of the wave and the water motion across the wave and across the board.

Broadcast is a strange business and the truth doesn't matter. Producers and sponsors and selling add time. Then there are the Technos that want to sell ideas to all the above. Everyone is pushing their agenda.

Some Tech does find it's way permanently to Broadcasts and into the bag of tricks of the Competition Organisers.

Hopefully it will become sophisticated enough to learn something new about surfboards and riding them.
I'm kinda interested in the forces at work in the fins ... but I don't think that would interest the Broadcasters
but you never know
I luv watching the foot work of the racing car drivers and the telemetry to go with it. YEARS ago I was told that would never happen. Now it is normal and is demanded by the race organisers.

gogglefog · Post by **gogglefog** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:25 pm

Mark Thompson is claiming 48 MPH and he thinks he can go over 50mph!!

he's claiming kilometers per hour - it's still 30 mph which is hauling ass.
if you really want to go fast figure out how to use supercavitation - i'm sure greenough has put his mind to this at some point.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercavitation

Mike Fernandez · Post by **Mike Fernandez** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:29 pm

In other than glassy conditions, most of the board is out of the water at high speeds, or bumping around the surface. In windsurfing if you bumped/jumped too high, you would get cavitation in the fin upon reentry, and you wouldn't be able to straighten the board out, but slide sideways until you fell. With experience you figured out how to pull the back of the board back under you using the foot strap. Maybe someone will mount a knot meter through the deck of their board to measure speed like sailboats do. Would hardly be noticed on tow in boards, but the board needs to be in the water.