Hi I am starting into competition and am wondering about the rules of competition kneeboarding
I have looked on the ksa & ksusa & could not find the info
is there a site where i might be able to scource the rules and the following info
eg what do judges score
is it length of ride [ milking it to the shore ]
or big manouveres
what do they score for different types of manouveres
eg a turn or floaters roundhouse cutbacks 360's ect
how many waves do they score
& is there a limit to how many can you catch
can you wear webbed gloves
paddling interference and wave drop in rules
length for heats & finals
comming in after the heat do you keep flat ,kneeboard or can you stand up
sorry lots of Questions but it's better to ask than make a mistake
thanks for any help
regards scott [aussie kneeboarder]
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"A surfer must perform radical controlled manoeuvres in the critical section of a wave with Speed, Power and Flow to maximize scoring potential. Innovative / Progressive surfing as well as Variety of Repertoire ( manoeuvres ),will be taken into consideration when rewarding points for waves ridden.
The surfer who executes this criteria with the maximum Degree of Difficulty and Commitment on the waves shall be rewarded with the higher scores."
usually heats are either 15 or 20 minutes and you have to catch 2 or 3 scoring waves.
maneuvers that dont show power and commitment will not be scored highly. 8 turns that have no power will still get a much lower score than one big powerful turn.
as far as interference, dont drop in on anyone and you should be alright.
and after the heat, best to come in lying down or standing up.
The surfer who executes this criteria with the maximum Degree of Difficulty and Commitment on the waves shall be rewarded with the higher scores."
usually heats are either 15 or 20 minutes and you have to catch 2 or 3 scoring waves.
maneuvers that dont show power and commitment will not be scored highly. 8 turns that have no power will still get a much lower score than one big powerful turn.
as far as interference, dont drop in on anyone and you should be alright.
yes, you can wear a tuxedo if you likecan you wear webbed gloves
and after the heat, best to come in lying down or standing up.
You can get a rule book from Surfing Australia for $10 or so.
www.surfingaustralia.com/
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Just hit it is a good rule of thumb. If you make that one then hit it again.
and again
If there's no more open face then kick out
Oh yes, a good tube is still the dogs balls.
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Just hit it is a good rule of thumb. If you make that one then hit it again.
and again
If there's no more open face then kick out
Oh yes, a good tube is still the dogs balls.
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The ESA website has a rule book in pdf format as well. Albert and Red have laid out the basics pretty well. We will have the head judge do a short presentation on rules and judging on Thursday night in Santa Cruz as well.
Vertical and radical surfing is what the judges want. A perfect 10" wave that runs for a 100 yards upon which the rider just does small bottom turns and little turns in the pocket will get few poiints.
A small wave upon the rider does a one big re-entry, or one big cutback, even one hard bottom turn and top turm will beat the perfect wave described above everytime.
Lastly, getting tubed is the dog's balls. Red should know, he's has enjoyed them many times!
Vertical and radical surfing is what the judges want. A perfect 10" wave that runs for a 100 yards upon which the rider just does small bottom turns and little turns in the pocket will get few poiints.
A small wave upon the rider does a one big re-entry, or one big cutback, even one hard bottom turn and top turm will beat the perfect wave described above everytime.
Lastly, getting tubed is the dog's balls. Red should know, he's has enjoyed them many times!
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thanks
thanks Red & Albert for your advice 
as advised i have purchased the asa rule book &
i am trying to get my head around it
I look forward to meeting up with everyone
at the island comp
p.s. I have been told that the water temp is 9c
is that right ?
we have been surfing in boardies for over a month now
with 23c water temp on the sunshine coast
best regards scott
as advised i have purchased the asa rule book &
i am trying to get my head around it
I look forward to meeting up with everyone
at the island comp
p.s. I have been told that the water temp is 9c
is that right ?
we have been surfing in boardies for over a month now
with 23c water temp on the sunshine coast
best regards scott
scott
Bring your thickest wetsuit.
I occasionally surf in my 3/2 now, but more often in my 4/3 with booties because the water and wind is a bit chilly. Water is around 14 degrees C. We do boardies when it gets to 17.
Plan on getting absolutely roasted; the sun isn't that wimpy orange thing you guys have - it's a blistering cutting torch (no water vapour in the air, you see).
Plan on freezing to death. The wind could be howling out of the Antarctic with freezing rain.
Possibly both on the same day (maybe more than once).
By the way, I wouldn't get too wound up in contest rules. Just go surfing. In my experience the hardest thing for people to get right is simply catching 2 scoring waves in 15 minutes. Seems like a long time but it does not even give you time to get nerves under control before it's over. The toughest person to beat in the water is yourself - merely trying to relax and free surf is probably the hardest thing about competition. Look up articles about 'flow'.
I occasionally surf in my 3/2 now, but more often in my 4/3 with booties because the water and wind is a bit chilly. Water is around 14 degrees C. We do boardies when it gets to 17.
Plan on getting absolutely roasted; the sun isn't that wimpy orange thing you guys have - it's a blistering cutting torch (no water vapour in the air, you see).
Plan on freezing to death. The wind could be howling out of the Antarctic with freezing rain.
Possibly both on the same day (maybe more than once).
By the way, I wouldn't get too wound up in contest rules. Just go surfing. In my experience the hardest thing for people to get right is simply catching 2 scoring waves in 15 minutes. Seems like a long time but it does not even give you time to get nerves under control before it's over. The toughest person to beat in the water is yourself - merely trying to relax and free surf is probably the hardest thing about competition. Look up articles about 'flow'.
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It is absolutely amazing that surfing on the whole is no longer about continuity, and the skill to go from point A to point B on pne long fluid line, but instead to do an Olympically dictated move and thus waste an otherwise perfectlly good wave.
Hoppy Swarts held this ridicoulous rating system at bay until the day he left us.
Now the Surf Industrial Complex dictates the definition of surfing.
The one trick dog and pony act is now the standard
It's a black hole we've fallen into.
Hoppy Swarts held this ridicoulous rating system at bay until the day he left us.
Now the Surf Industrial Complex dictates the definition of surfing.
The one trick dog and pony act is now the standard
It's a black hole we've fallen into.
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Can't believe you would rather grovel in the slop to the beach... or win a contest going LEFT on the reform at Rincon or Malibu... when you could win a contest by going for broke on a Set wave.
If this format had been in place 10-15 years ago, Ando woulda been World Champ.
Think about it.
EQ
P.S. What's up Albert? I see you spent that 3 dollars I gave you on Contest Theory Lessons... hope it translates to the water.
Can't believe you would rather grovel in the slop to the beach... or win a contest going LEFT on the reform at Rincon or Malibu... when you could win a contest by going for broke on a Set wave.
If this format had been in place 10-15 years ago, Ando woulda been World Champ.
Think about it.
EQ
P.S. What's up Albert? I see you spent that 3 dollars I gave you on Contest Theory Lessons... hope it translates to the water.
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Ill get there... dont you worry!eqKneelo wrote: P.S. What's up Albert? I see you spent that 3 dollars I gave you on Contest Theory Lessons... hope it translates to the water.
consistantly => consistentlyRW wrote:You consistantly have such a penchant for misinterpretation Albert.
sounds like someone has a penchant for miscommunication...
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Here we go agin' Albert...that's "misspelling" you are trying to reference.
Eddie Boy....that was Shuan Ambrose doin' those Rincon lefts.....I was there....you were still playing rugby more than you were surfin'.
Malibu was some guy outta Oxnard with full sized fins attached to his rails 4" up from the tail like razorblades. He went left cause I told him to stay the F___ away from me and everybody else. He cut himself latter in the day too.
Jack and Barry are still the ultimate kings of mush chargin'. How many events did we lose to their great lightweight ability to milk a ripple to the sand?:P
...and Ando...well....no one was near him then...and he was easily ten years ahead of where you guys are now...and that was then...
....think about that one.
Tragic Irony.
To clarify: On a day to day basis I'll watch 19 outta 20 surfers in the water go for some big spastic move and waste the remainder of a perfectly good wave cause they either choke beautifully and I laugh, or they can't catch back up to the open face and bail. To keep it real simple, the points per manuever juding system has taken the soul and the beauty out of the intrinsic nature of surfing...ie... completing a wave from point A, to point B, in a fluid, not straight Albert, continous, gracefull manner, with power, innovation, and most importantly, consistency.
Too bad really......makes for a real shallow talent pool. That's a pretty tragic future for surfing to strive towards. But then it's not surfers who are really setting this up....it's the industry manipulating criteria to insure it own survival.
......you know....the cart driving the horse.....
Eddie Boy....that was Shuan Ambrose doin' those Rincon lefts.....I was there....you were still playing rugby more than you were surfin'.
Malibu was some guy outta Oxnard with full sized fins attached to his rails 4" up from the tail like razorblades. He went left cause I told him to stay the F___ away from me and everybody else. He cut himself latter in the day too.
Jack and Barry are still the ultimate kings of mush chargin'. How many events did we lose to their great lightweight ability to milk a ripple to the sand?:P
...and Ando...well....no one was near him then...and he was easily ten years ahead of where you guys are now...and that was then...
....think about that one.
Tragic Irony.
To clarify: On a day to day basis I'll watch 19 outta 20 surfers in the water go for some big spastic move and waste the remainder of a perfectly good wave cause they either choke beautifully and I laugh, or they can't catch back up to the open face and bail. To keep it real simple, the points per manuever juding system has taken the soul and the beauty out of the intrinsic nature of surfing...ie... completing a wave from point A, to point B, in a fluid, not straight Albert, continous, gracefull manner, with power, innovation, and most importantly, consistency.
Too bad really......makes for a real shallow talent pool. That's a pretty tragic future for surfing to strive towards. But then it's not surfers who are really setting this up....it's the industry manipulating criteria to insure it own survival.
......you know....the cart driving the horse.....
shoulder huggin' chickens