Ask the Shaper (or Anyone who wants to answer) (Vol. II)

What works & what doesn't and in what type of conditions. Got a "secret" only you and your shaper know???? Post it here... we can keep it quiet ;-)

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now wax

in a very cheeky fashion i was going to say something about "have you hugged the remanents of your bread board today"?

but

the image of the Buddhas face entered my head upon reading your post and i thought perhaps "just let it go"

so thanks for the thought


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On topic (sort of)

John Cooper at Bendelong had hard channels parallel to the stringer about 1" in from the rails. Had the effect of reducing his rail thickness. Seemed to go very fast and hold hard bottom turns (but that may have been his true thruster fin setup).

I have an omlette you guys may be interested in buying. It bears an uncanny resemblance to ...
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...Buddha?
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no!

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Dear Headwax

I don't know that guy but I'd suggest if he ever hears of your description of him he will need some top level counselling.

Leo #@*&^%'n Sayer. At least you didn't compare him to Richard Simmons (USA) who used to do aerobics in the eighties.

I think I have may issues as my mental picture of Leo is starting to merge with Richard S and there might be a little bit of that ponce from Air Supply mixed in as well.

Curse you headwax for awakening repressed memories.
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:arrow:

so it was my old man that said..

"Son, each of us are in fact, three persons..

" The man we think we are

" The man other people think we are

" And the person whom, we really are.."

So, in reality, it is not what we..or indeed what other people think of us that matters

It is what we truly are that defines us

:D

and I anticipate that judgement to come at some later stage in my life..

(hopefully at least :idea: )

hart

ps

and I thank my father for letting me know sometime before he was judged :cry:

..good on ya Jack

(the Jack of Hearts)

ha :}

regards as always, from OZ

pps

(on tropic of capricorn at least)

headwax..and here I was thinking about Larry bloody Bertleman :shock:
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Should have read the forum first.
Your old man got it right.....Right on the money :)
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the judgement!


how are we all?....now!


when else matters :wink:


is it a thruster set up or the amount of "toe in" that defines fins and their part in speed development


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Post by Ben B. »

can someone explain if you have two boards with exactly the same features ie tail,rails planeshape.bottoms but one is slightly longer at what point is it noticable?is the extra two inches in the tail or the nose.is it in the water entry in the rail while turning? :?
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Post by Burnwater »

Hart wrote:

"the slab was, in kind..the antithesis (opposite) of the fish..

how can 2 such different designs, create such a universal (kneeboard)approach to surfing?

traditional Sydney and home-town Ca..

what a potent bloody mix

Opposites will Attract.."

Alan Watts said, "...for no two opposites can exist unless there is a relation between them."
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Burnwater wrote:
Alan Watts said, "...for no two opposites can exist unless there is a relation between them."
Burnwater

That's a great quote and even greater response! :D

And in its trueism, the opposite characteristics of the slab and fish do create similarities between them.

The basic component of similarity is, of course, the rider (assuming a surfboard is inert unless it is being ridden)..and each rider will search for the same things.

And in terms of shape, similar design elements are used..it's just that they exist in different places in each style of board.

I am certainly no expert on the California fish (and prepared to be corrected) but I kinda see it this way.

Both board designs used straight bottoms for intrinsic speed. The slab however had a dead-straight tail, yet the fish seemed straighter through the mid-point.

The slab had a planshape-straight through the front one third (and curve from there down into the tail) , yet the fish had its straightest-point in its planshape in the back one third..with curve from there up into the nose.

While these observations seem to be working against one another, they in fact, strike on a strong common denominator.

And that is, that the straightest part(s) of the bottom curves (of both designs) was placed (under) and in relation to the curviest part of the outline.

So, the same intelligence with different application will generate a different result..

But its good to know that we are all thinking the same way

8)

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