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- kneelo_44
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Folks
I take slowly to change when it comes to surfing, I like the safety of sticking to what I know best. It took me years to go from a single to a twin fin. The change from twin to triple was a short 4 years. Not to mention the change from fixed to fin boxs as well. My last 2 boards prior to my new one (dec 03) were thrusters (82) and my more recent one (95). One had fixed side fins and centre fin in a fin box (82). The other had 3 fin boxs (95). I never moved them one they were set in place. My new board (Island) has FCS and everyone has a different opinion to what I should use. It came with GR side fins and a GYU center fin. They seem fine, no they feel bloodly great. It was recommendend that I try a set of TF1's with a GS trailer so I did. They also great feel great, so is just another means for people to take my money. Or do they really make that bigger difference, I have yet to really notice that greater change.
I surf the east coast and PI in VIC and I do like to travel as well I/state and OS. So what is the general opinion.
John
I take slowly to change when it comes to surfing, I like the safety of sticking to what I know best. It took me years to go from a single to a twin fin. The change from twin to triple was a short 4 years. Not to mention the change from fixed to fin boxs as well. My last 2 boards prior to my new one (dec 03) were thrusters (82) and my more recent one (95). One had fixed side fins and centre fin in a fin box (82). The other had 3 fin boxs (95). I never moved them one they were set in place. My new board (Island) has FCS and everyone has a different opinion to what I should use. It came with GR side fins and a GYU center fin. They seem fine, no they feel bloodly great. It was recommendend that I try a set of TF1's with a GS trailer so I did. They also great feel great, so is just another means for people to take my money. Or do they really make that bigger difference, I have yet to really notice that greater change.

John
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- hart
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Adjustment
K_44,
Kneeboarding is uniquely specialised in that ALL our turns..short or long, are generated from the one prone-position. This is a point that is (unintentionally) lost to most standups..only cause they've never knelt.
A kneeboard in my opinion has to be totally tuned to that one basic requirement..the surfer's position.
Add to this the fact that we are all different in height and weight. Add also to this that while I'm 6' 2" tall and weigh 200lbs, my physique may also differ from someone who weighs the same over the same height.
Like I have a long torso..but someone like Kyle Bryant has longer legs. So, despite our similarities..we will have a different effect on our boards once we are kneeling in position.
As a shaper, I will never assume that the fin position (and type, for that matter) that I nominate for any given surfer, is in fact, the absolute correct one.
I desire fin adjustment for not only fine tuning but to allow accurate assessment of fin type, dependent on the conditions.
Long walls will generally dictate base and rake in a fin. Wedgey type A-frames will support something more upright for example.
So the one board shape will perform proportionately different, dependent on fin choice AND position.
Viva la difference.
Kneeboarding is uniquely specialised in that ALL our turns..short or long, are generated from the one prone-position. This is a point that is (unintentionally) lost to most standups..only cause they've never knelt.
A kneeboard in my opinion has to be totally tuned to that one basic requirement..the surfer's position.
Add to this the fact that we are all different in height and weight. Add also to this that while I'm 6' 2" tall and weigh 200lbs, my physique may also differ from someone who weighs the same over the same height.
Like I have a long torso..but someone like Kyle Bryant has longer legs. So, despite our similarities..we will have a different effect on our boards once we are kneeling in position.
As a shaper, I will never assume that the fin position (and type, for that matter) that I nominate for any given surfer, is in fact, the absolute correct one.
I desire fin adjustment for not only fine tuning but to allow accurate assessment of fin type, dependent on the conditions.
Long walls will generally dictate base and rake in a fin. Wedgey type A-frames will support something more upright for example.
So the one board shape will perform proportionately different, dependent on fin choice AND position.
Viva la difference.
- hart
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Box removal
K_44,
It's not something that I'd be looking to do..like, is there a specific reason to do it?
Do you already have box-fins for it?
I've seen guys laminate OVER boxes and then glass on fins..but this is very unprofessional and just looks rooted. Once something like this is done..the board will also have little or no resale value despite the bucks you've just thrown at it.
If It's a matter of getting fins to suit the existing boxes, I can let you know where to go..and given that we are talking about a beginner, the fins could be foiled with really ROUNDED tips and trailing edges..so that they are less likely to lacerate should your daughter get hit by them.
Let me know a little more.
It's not something that I'd be looking to do..like, is there a specific reason to do it?
Do you already have box-fins for it?
I've seen guys laminate OVER boxes and then glass on fins..but this is very unprofessional and just looks rooted. Once something like this is done..the board will also have little or no resale value despite the bucks you've just thrown at it.
If It's a matter of getting fins to suit the existing boxes, I can let you know where to go..and given that we are talking about a beginner, the fins could be foiled with really ROUNDED tips and trailing edges..so that they are less likely to lacerate should your daughter get hit by them.
Let me know a little more.
- kneelo_44
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Fin boxes
Bruce
If you know where I get can fins to fit the existing fin boxes that would be good. They are just so difficult to get down here. We've already broken one (alot of Reef breaks) so I've turned it into a twin fin. They're the type that use the forwrad brass pin and the rear screw that fits into a small plate. They are about 8 inches in length the board was nmade in the mid 90's. What else to do you need to know.
John
If you know where I get can fins to fit the existing fin boxes that would be good. They are just so difficult to get down here. We've already broken one (alot of Reef breaks) so I've turned it into a twin fin. They're the type that use the forwrad brass pin and the rear screw that fits into a small plate. They are about 8 inches in length the board was nmade in the mid 90's. What else to do you need to know.
John
I would rather be slotted
- doc
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http://www.finsunlimited.com - dunno who the Australian distributor is, but that shouldn't be too hard to find out.
hope that's of use
doc......
hope that's of use
doc......
- hart
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Boxfins
K_44,
You're right..always hard to get nowadays.
But if you can do the phonecalls and be prepared to wait, I think that doing a couple of fins (to learn on) is a better potion than trying to pull the boxes out.
And a Twinnie would be OK to learn on (in the first instance) because it will give you a broader sweet-spot than a Thruster..just make sure they have enough base.
Call Phil Way @ Fluidfoils (Ballina) 02 6686 7858 and he will request a template (which you can fax) and let him know who shaped the board.
Like, if it was Lukey it probably has Dion fin boxes..this is important info for a positive fit..cause you are a long way from Ballina.
I think the guy's an ex kneeboarder, so it all should be good.
If you get them and they don't fit..Neil should be able to tweak them to get them to.
And tell him you want everything 'rounded' for your daughter.
Regards from Sydney
You're right..always hard to get nowadays.
But if you can do the phonecalls and be prepared to wait, I think that doing a couple of fins (to learn on) is a better potion than trying to pull the boxes out.
And a Twinnie would be OK to learn on (in the first instance) because it will give you a broader sweet-spot than a Thruster..just make sure they have enough base.
Call Phil Way @ Fluidfoils (Ballina) 02 6686 7858 and he will request a template (which you can fax) and let him know who shaped the board.
Like, if it was Lukey it probably has Dion fin boxes..this is important info for a positive fit..cause you are a long way from Ballina.
I think the guy's an ex kneeboarder, so it all should be good.
If you get them and they don't fit..Neil should be able to tweak them to get them to.
And tell him you want everything 'rounded' for your daughter.
Regards from Sydney