To flex tail it or not flex tail it?

[DYdamo]

I know how to cheat at Tattslotto
I got a great idea for a song
I know the truth about Marylin Monroe
I can prove Einstein's theory wrong
But that's not what motivates me.
I'm interested in apathy.

I can predict mankind's fate
I know where there's oil in Bass Straight
All the deserts I could irrigate!
All the poor I could emancipate!
But none of this petty stuff for me.
I'm interested in apathy.
I've got the cure for all known disease
I know how to make money grow on trees
I know how to stop terrorism
I know one of the guys in TISM
Enough of this wretched pedantry.
I'm interested in apathy.

Oh why not................

[analbirth]

ss, ah whoda thunk it

1 solid? it's all fluid man

2 they are spoons i'm more into daggers

3 that's all i can count to

[mark ricketts]

surely a board with most of the pluses of a spoon ie flex without the limitations of no volume and the brain-numbing wallet-destroying construction complexity, would be some sort of holy grail. anyone who has ridden a spoon or even a good flextail in decent surf that allows the utilisation of the flex knows how great it is......

to sink it into a turn, the rail curves and the flex compresses and feel the drive back out. Greenough at his Yoda-best once described it as that feeling when your V8's wheels regain traction on a dirt road!!! clearly the only chance we'll get in a post-peak oil future.

the only issue for me is whether the hassle and cost is worth it for the relatively small increment in performance. I say ... go AB...where none have gone before....and as Bill Clinton would say " we're all rooting for you".

[analbirth]

done deal mark,[ it always was ] taking it to get glassed today, a sgl/dbl conc quad flextail sounds good to me
and about that rail line in the tail this board was taken off my sgl flyer rounded sq plan i straightened it at the flyer and left more area in the tail to allow for the change in rail under flex which should make it feel a bit pinish under load AB

[womble]

It's interesting how i'm getting a few of poo poo's about this.

No ... no ... no ... not poo poo's just positive feedback ... the general consensus seems to be in agreement with the flex idea ... but not on the board pictured ... so there's the answer to your original question ... which was ... Just about to glass this board [ carbon /innegra/ epoxy] who reckons i should put an 8" flex tail on it? i'm 75% for it. AB ... now as someone standing in front of Mick Fleetwood once said ... you can go your own way ... they probably weren't standing so much as fluttering around and waving a tambourine ... moving right along ... you know what go for it AB ... if its no good you can borrow the jigsaw and cut it off ...

Now on a side note that turns into a foot note with a pinch of serendipity ... whilst commuting from one side of this continent to the other and with visions of flextails swirling around my subconscious ... I purchased the latest Surfing World in a feeble attempt to make time fly faster than my flight ... once I had stripped away the plastic covering and after placing the "free" DVD in my hand luggage ... there it was ... the name Crawford ... an interview with PC's sons ... recorded at DY point ... a couple of pictures of the enigmatic man ... one with the flextail ... so there you have it ... a message from beyond ... AB go forth and flex.

[analbirth]

wwomble, i never forgot the original Q i asked it to get an idea of how many are thinking outside the tried and true [pu / stringer /pe ] a few not many.
Gotta evolve & change or stagnate mate

[RMcKnee]

... now as someone standing in front of Mick Fleetwood once said ... you can go your own way ... they probably weren't standing so much as fluttering around and waving a tambourine ...

She was on drugs at the time though ... sniff sniff.

[womble]

Gotta evolve & change or stagnate mate

Couldn't agree more ... but now its not just RM who wants to try it ... Old Crazy wants to relive the past as well ...

When will the board be ready for viewing ...

[frankfqr]

Food for thought.....all flex spoon bits I've heard of discuss the need for fine tuning the degree or intinsity of flex to suit the individual. Loading up the glass at the onset with the intent of sanding down layers after riding to fine tune the amount of flex. Spoons are well suited for those alterations. Flex tails on foam can be designed for this same consideration. Consider that with to much flex a sensation of bogging at high G loads combined with inhanced spring release, slightly redirecting a clean line, can distract from the mental aproach to attacking the face. Getting it well tuned to suit your needs or sensations you hope to accomplish is a major consideration when stepping into flexi land. Enjoy the journey, go for it.."It's all toys", have fun.......

[analbirth]

Mc, weren't we all btw kinetix R104

Womble, should be ready before xmas, ready for cyclone season

Frank, i'm well aware of the extra work involved, bring it on, and your right to much of anything ain't nerracessaly a good thing, everything in moderation. It's all fun, keeps the brain ticking and my boards already have got good usable flex. Just the thought of getting a bit extra also the clincher to do it was the views that it wasn't the right board for it red rag mate red rag. capricorns what do ya do

SS. have you seen the new carbon/poly weave? 6oz twill the carbon in one diagonal the poly in the other comes in different flavors iv'e seen red and blue, it shimmers, looks incredible sposed to be strong too. The poly is recycled tarps. Would look amazing on your spoons

Cheers AB

[stevea]

Great looking board A B .I say flex it cant go wrong with the P C and Mitchell Rae influences ,ive had visions of going epoxy might get there one day ,tried flex one time as an add on to an old single fin went real fast but was afraid of it biting me and hadnt come across hard cell rubber
I would love to get some footage of it during a cyclone swell ,could be up that way in Febuary to March depending on how things pan out
Keep the posts coming as far as i can see its all positive
Womble your a crack up love your verse

[RMcKnee]

weren't we all

I can't remember.

kinetix R104

Your idea or Mo's?

Interesting mix ratio specified for this brew. 2:1 by volume but 100:43 by weight.
2:1 looks easy and very tempting as it's well suited to guesstimation.
Given the need with epoxies for accurate measuring and thorough mixing, we often use electronic scales for the former and a power stirrer for the latter, (except when working with microballoons). There's a huge dividend in taking the guesswork out of it.
The impact of exotherm is not to be underestimated. Keeping the mixed resin well spread out will greatly extend working life.

[analbirth]

Rob, pete doesn't give much away only comment about using 104 was it's uv stable, without pumping him and my eyes glazing over all i can do is go by the way the boards are holding up. Proof is in the pud. Also as boards aren't subject to the same stresses as boats n cars etc, if it's working why put yourself through the ringer. Remember he's an old dog and as i said there aren't a lot of glasses out there who work with the stuff or want to and he's a pleasure to deal with. Keep it simple stupid is an under appreciated motto

Stevea, Cheers bud, as for them being hard on the shins, i've never really had a problem with them and my existing boards have hard solid sharp edges anyway that would do equally as much damage, i think the new leggy's might have a bit to do with it, they don't seem to fly back as quick as the oldy's. Also i dont use a leggy plug but a hoop right on the tail and this virtually cuts out toumbstoning. I'm still going to put a small rolled bead on the deck around the flex though to be on the safe side

AB

[RMcKnee]

Al, it's me with the eyes glazing over. Between here and Christmas it's a non-stop bogathon for this little black duck.

UV stability's been an issue with epoxies for ages. The addition of UV filters these days seems to have done the trick though. As I've mentioned to you before we're using a UV stabilised West brew for teak encapsulation and it seems to be holding up in service pretty well.

Dealing with Mo is a real treat , especially if you can get him to talk story: he has a few up his sleeve for sure.

Itching to see the finished board.

[analbirth]

Rob, sorry to here about your bogathon hope it clears up try imodium